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    Anyone else thinks Emilia Clarke has done a very good job this season? Imo this is her best season acting wise.

     I absolutely agree. There have been times in the past where I looked at her as an OK, but not great actress, but she has really shined this season. 

     Exactly. This season the ones that deserve Emmy nominations imo are Emilia, Gwendoline and Nikolaj.

     Her acting has improved a great deal this season. There was a period where I started to dislike her. Somewhere in S5-6 but dont remember but she has totally turned it around. 

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    Are we sure the second dragon is dead?  That's Rheagal, I believe.  I thought some time in the earlier seasons it was mentioned that to kill a dragon you have to stab it through the eye.  I don't believe one of the scorpions hit him in the eye.  Now, don't get me wrong, he looked dead as hell and who knows with the writing, but could this be the reason Euron is surprised when he looks up in the previews for this week's episode?  

     I dont think we know for sure but he did look dead. The NK was able to take One down without hitting him in the eye but he had a different projectile. Some people are speculating he might return and point to the preview when Euron looks up as the dragon making a possible return. It would be interesting to see how they would bring him back if they do. 

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    The Adventures of Arya and The Hound sounds like an amazing concept for a spin-off series that I would TOTALLY be into Laughing

     It would be kinda cool. A 4 part mini series would be interesting to see. 

    I too would love this, but GRRM has specifically ruled this out of being one of the 4 works in development. 2 of the 4 are progressing on schedule. I don't know what they are apart from stories which predate the current show.

     The main One as it stands is The Long Night. Takes place approx 1000 years before the current story or 1000 bc (before conquest). Its about the last battle vs the white's. They should cover a fair amount of the story. 

     

    Supposedly there is a chance for Aegons Conquest, Dance of the Dragons, and a third which I cant remember right now. The One that GRRM seems to not want to do is the Adventures of Dunk and Egg. Some speculate GRRM doesnt want that story touched at all lol. 

     This would be, or should I say could be, amazing if done well.

     I admit I was a bit upset when I heard the long night would be the first. I desperately want Aegons Conquest. There is so much material with this story that the possibilities are endless. They could have it start with Daeny having the dream of the doom of Valeria and leaving west. As they are leaving a awesome  shot of Valeria featuring a ton of dragons flying around the city.  Have a season featuring the fighting between all the houses of Westeros. They could make it where they show Aegon having a major struggles wining battles. 

     

    I would love to see Dance of Dragons also. It would be f in awesome if they did them.

     

    Personally I am a huge fan of the history of Tywin. I know I sometimes ask for alot but would be pumped if they made this. It could start with Tywin in the war of  Penny kings. Him witnessing people laughing at his family due to his father. and progress to the war against house Reyne. Out of all the older stories I think this One is towards the bottom of what people would want but I can always wish lol.

     

     

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    The Adventures of Arya and The Hound sounds like an amazing concept for a spin-off series that I would TOTALLY be into Laughing

     It would be kinda cool. A 4 part mini series would be interesting to see. 

    I too would love this, but GRRM has specifically ruled this out of being one of the 4 works in development. 2 of the 4 are progressing on schedule. I don't know what they are apart from stories which predate the current show.

     The main One as it stands is The Long Night. Takes place approx 1000 years before the current story or 1000 bc (before conquest). Its about the last battle vs the white's. They should cover a fair amount of the story. 

     

    Supposedly there is a chance for Aegons Conquest, Dance of the Dragons, and a third which I cant remember right now. The One that GRRM seems to not want to do is the Adventures of Dunk and Egg. Some speculate GRRM doesnt want that story touched at all lol. 

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    The Adventures of Arya and The Hound sounds like an amazing concept for a spin-off series that I would TOTALLY be into Laughing

     It would be kinda cool. A 4 part mini series would be interesting to see. 

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    Damn... so much to read here... a lot of great opinions and predictions.  Some of my thoughts on the commentary along with my personal predictions after S8E4:

     

    I liked the episode... although I see the points being raised by those that did not like it.  I definitely don't think this was the worst episode in the series as some have suggested.

     

    I don't think Missandei in chains was "racist" in any way.  Her loss was just yet another savage blow to Dany and I think the cumulative effect will be to lead her down the path of recklessness (ie, the mad queen).  Like others here have suggested, my wife screamed that Missandei should have just grabbed Cersei and pulled her off the wall.  I think the shackles would have prevented that.  

     

    I agree that the death of Rhaegal was handled very poorly because if Euron's fleet was close enough for him to be hit three times then a) Dany should have seen the ships in advance or b) there's no way Drogon should have been missed by all those volleys launched his way.  I also disliked the rapid fire coming from the Scorpions as if there were no time needed to reload.  Lastly...  I don't understand why Dani didn't just fly around to the backs of the ships and torch the entire fleet.  This would have been easy because the Scorpions are mounted on the fronts of each ship.

     

    The Jaime - Brienne breakup was a bit odd.  My take is that he initiated their hookup... but then upon reflection, decided he isn't worthy of happiness with her because of all the bad things he has done.  I don't think he has made up his mind about what he will do back in King's Landing... but I think he feels that's where he belongs - back with Cersei.  

     

    I completely agree with those that point out the disconnect between Jon saying he doesn't want the throne (which I don't think he does) and the fact that he just couldn't keep his mouth shut about his real parentage.  Why did he feel so compelled to tell Arya and Sansa?  I felt the same way last episode... why even tell Dany... especially right before the big battle with the Night King?  Makes no sense to do that.

     

    Varys' conspiring against Dany has got to seal his fate, right?  I agree with Tyrion's proposal to just marry Jon and Dany and let them rule together.  I did not like Varys' explanation that she's just too strong for Jon.

     

    Bran continues to be useless.  There has to be more to his story than we currently know... right?  Perhaps the Three-eyed Raven and the Lord of Light are one in the same... and maybe we will find out more about this in the final two episodes?

     

    I still think Jon will end up on the throne when the dust settles because:

     

    1. That's who belongs there dammit. 
    2. I agree with folks that point to the original HBO preview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5p18wIQEI which shows Ned, Catelyn, Tyrion, Jaime, Cersei, Dani, Robert, and Littlefinger on the throne... but it is Jon who is shown on the video thumbnail and Jon's shot at 0:24 shows him from a straight on camera angle while the others are all spinning (as if the throne is trying to throw them off).
    3. Dany's "House of Undying" vision https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFb2EjWBhWQ which shows her approaching and reaching out to the throne at 1:55 and again at 2:10 but pulling back just before touching it.  What is the throne covered in?  SNOW!

    I think "The Hound" will kill his brother "The Mountain" but will be mortally wounded in the fight and this time, Arya will comply with his wishes to kill him quickly.

     

    I think Dani riding Drogon will burn the Red Keep fulfilling her "House of Undying" vision mentioned above and will drive Cersei from the throne thus fulfilling Maggy the Frog's prophecy "Oh yes. You'll be queen. For a time. Then comes another. Younger, more beautiful, to cast you down and take all you hold dear."  Cersei will flee perhaps ending up back at Casterly Rock?

     

    I think Arya will then kill Cersai by strangling her while disguised with Jaime's face... thus somewhat fulfilling Maggy's prophecy from the book that her little brother will "choke the life" from her.  Of course Jaime has only one hand and at the last second Cersai will look down and see this isn't really him and she will die with a look of confusion.  Then Arya can go settle down with Gendry... and Sansa can be "Wardeness of the North".  Everyone will think Jaime did it and he will be forever known as both the KingSlayer and QueenSlayer.

     

    There needs to be something to make this all bittersweet as GRRM put it... so my guess is that Tyrion dies in a particularly horrific manner... most likely Cersei's doing.

     

    I can't wait until Sunday!

    I think its possible Jaime acted like that because he feels like he must do something to stop Cersei, He didnt want Brienne going down with him. Could be either to protect her or to keep her protecting Sansa. I can see Arya taking his face thinking he is there to protect Cersei and not be aware of his true intentions. I read a theory a few years ago that had Cersei being imprisoned and after losing her child jumping out the window like Tomen. She did say she would have done that if it wasnt for her kids at the time.

     

    I think Vary's gets the bar b. Could be Tyrion is Danys new spider and tells her the news in a moment where she is debating killing him. It would be an interesting twist if Vary's tells Dany that Tyrion is the one planning so he could get him out of the way to make it easier for him to take her out but in a way Dany already has the intel and kills him instead. 

     

    I believe the snow on the throne implies Jon will get it. It could explain why Arya killed the NK. They probably didnt want Jon doing it all. They have been making a big deal about him being the final King. It is hard to see them actually doing it,  Stranger things have happened and who knows if in the end he becomes King, Vacates to go north and sets up a democracy like they had at the wall. I am still going with Sansa. She has been my pick (not who I want but who I think will end there) Since season 6 I think and wont switch now lol. They are showing Sansa seriously trying to get it. Who knows what she was really planning with Yohn Royce but could be something big. 

     

    So many people want Cleganebowl  that I think the show will do it. In the books it seems like the Gravydigger is the Hound and thats where the hype started to take off. The One thing the show has done is give some of what the fans want. It would be cool if they did it right. I hated the Viper losing with a passion but dam that scene was powerful and done well. Arya giving the gift of mercy would be a cool ending. He did teach her where the heart is, She also learned to give the gift of death. Im not sure if Arya would settle down. Maybe in the distant future. She was a fan of Nymeria who sailed her people to Dorn and has always mentioned wanting to find out whats west of Westeros. 

     

     

     

     

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    Didn't they use all of the wildfire?

     I'm not certain that it's all gone.

     Supposedly the mad king had enough wildfire to blast the entire city. not only was it stashed everywhere but they also created more to be used in the battle of Blackwater. I know they used a bunch on the sept but there should be more on top of what Cersei must have made since then. No way of knowing if they will use it on the show tho. You would think if Dany lights up the Red Keep it should ignite some. 

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    Saw this on Twitter Laughing

    I think the artist is giving the writers to much credit lol

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    Going into the season knowing there would only be 6 episodes to work with and the series is over .. you have to be willing to accept that corners will be cut to reach the end result. The story is simply too massive to wrap up in this 6 episode final season. These writers are doing an admirable job with the restrictions and the amount of time they were given.

     

    It's not the best content at all. No arguments there. But I went into this with no real expectations knowing that we're in a shortened and final season. Dragons have to be nerfed to advance the story, the NK had to be dealt with quickly in a 6 episode season, goodbyes and emotional scenes had to be prioritized to fit within episode lengths, etc etc. I totally get it.

     

    The sad truth is that the show is almost done.. good or bad. I guess now I can take this time to try out the books Very Happy

     I for One try my best to give them slack. While they didnt cover alot (If they covered 50% more we would be near the timeline of season 4) I thought what they covered was fair. When they announced there would only be 2 seasons after 6 I figured they would be in hypermode. Whats upsetting is they were the ones who set the 13 ep mark. From what I have read HBO wanted 10 seasons. Their argument was 13 was more than enough for the ending. At first they tried to just do 1 10 ep season but HBO said 2 which is why we got 2 short seasons. But it seems they are being reckless finishing fast for the sake of being done with the show even if the story suffers. If they were burnt out they should have just let someone else handle the ending imo. 

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    I agree with most if not all the dislikes. I am One of the few who watch the show as a different story from the books. Even though the last 4 seasons have been poorly written I still find the good and keep hyped about it. But it has been hard this season. They seem to write episodes to only hype the next and disregard the previous. After the battle there is no point to the 2nd episode really. 

     

    I dont know what I disliked the most because there are to many. Why did they bring up ghost in this episode. If filming scenes with him is so impossible then just kill him in the battle. They only kept him alive to create a buzz with the preview. The Starks have a connection to their wolves and this f didnt even say goodbye. I would guess Jon eventually goes to the real North when its all said and done but the way the writers do things who knows. 

     

    I may disagree but I get why Sansa is plotting against Dany, She is supposed to be the new Littlefinger. But I am lost why no One else shows appreciation to Dany. All this non sense about her turning mad. Since when? Yes there were moments where she flashed a bit but for the most part she has been cool. She allowed the Tarleys to keep their title if they bent the knee (she even sent Lord Tarly to the wall but he said F U )so I see why she burnt him, she Didnt burn KL, and like Stannis went North for a battle that wasnt their main priority. with everything that happened this episode she even goes to meet Cersei. Now all the sudden even Vary's is questioning her thinking. The only reason she is turning Mad is because the show runners tell us she is but I have not seen it. All this and I am not a big fan of Dany.

     

    At least Bran was consistent this episode. He continued to keep all intel to himself. Well except for the Jon reveal which if Jon doesnt want the title why did he even tell them. For someone who doesnt want the tile you would think he would honor his word and fight in the south and head north but nope. 

     

    The show runners have turned what is supposed to be a super interesting character in Euron into a desperate attempt to be the next Joffrey/Ramsey but they are failing. I will give him credit though. The guy is super effective when it comes to reloading those scorpions. projectiles were destroying stuff super fast you almost forget about them having to reload it. 

     

    Cersei didnt bother to shoot at Dany or Tyrion and Missandei didnt grab Cersei to at least attempt to kill her. That final scene would have been somewhat better if Missandei at least tried to kill Cersei. The Mountain would have prevented it and Cersei in rage would order the archers to fire even if no one else died. 

     

    One thing that seems poetic in a messed up way is the way the show is ending. Cersei has mentioned a couple of times burning cities to the ground. The showrunners moving on from the show seem to be doing just that. It seems to me that they are burning the show to the ground by ruining the ending and making the whole journey pointless. 

     

    It seems like Jaime will kill Cersei fulfilling the One prophesy that wasnt mentioned in the show and Arya/Hound killing the Mountain. 

     

     

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    I hope the NK returns. I would be upset if they show he went under the dumpster but wouldnt put it passed them lol. 

     arent the children of the forest deam as well tho? how would a NK return?

     I dont know how the show runners would do it. The way they have been doing things lately I thought of the dumbest way they could do it and thought the Dumpster scene from TWD lol. My initial thought was it being tied to Bran somehow. That thought has gone out the window tho. The actor who plays the NK has been tweeting about how babies and dragons reacted when he touched them and what do we think will happen since he touched Bran. With all the NDA they sign I doubt he would talk spoilers only troll. 

     

    I just hope that either he returns via warging into Bran or Arya or One of Krasters Babies being left as a Heir or anything really. Or they do some explanation. There are way to many plot holes ending it the way they did.

     

    The way I see it is the show runners had Bran go north for the sole purpose of having this battle that led to nothing. Had Bran stayed south, The NK could never kill the Raven, never mark bran and thus never be able to break the wall and go south due to the magic on the wall. 

     Bran went north to basically become the 3eyed raven tho? not for the battle to be had in winterfell. the only Kraster baby left is Sam Jr who was never given to the night king. and how can something dead Warg into someone? the directors tried to make something that is nothing in the books into something which was IMO a huge mistake and had lead to many being upset of how he died. 

     That is whats puzzling. Bran had this important role to play but if it ends the way it did he only served to allow the dead thru the wall. There has to be more than Cersie. It has to be about killing him for good as it is the only way to get rid of him forever.  Mel mentioned Azul Ahai grabbing the sword from fire called light bringer and the sword is the only way to truly kill the long night. Last season she mentioned bringing ice and fire together and mentioned the price that was promised to Dany. and all the sudden she just disappeared. 

     

    Dany had the vision of not reaching the throne and then seeing her child and Drogo. So in some way Dany should die prior to getting to the throne as seen in the vision of her in the afterlife. Jon being the prince that was promised will have to be the one to kill her to truly create light bringer. Maybe the rest of the red prists show up and inform him lol. 

     

     

    As for the warging part, Its been documented that people  have warged seconds before they die. In the books some speculate Jon warged into Ghost when he died. In the show the wildling warged into the eagle after Jon killed him. 

     

    That led me to the idea that the NK warged into another body and would eventually lead to him transferring into Bran but the actor trolling makes it unlikly. He did tough Arya and could posses her and she would become NK. That would make her a kick ass assassin of the god of death and Jon having to kill her with light bringer would fit the bitter sweat ending GRRM said it would have. 

     

     

     interesting, i just think ur thinking way to much into it tbh.

     Yeah that would be me lol. 

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    Well this stinks. Sad

     yeah its sad. 

     

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    I hope the NK returns. I would be upset if they show he went under the dumpster but wouldnt put it passed them lol. 

     arent the children of the forest deam as well tho? how would a NK return?

     I dont know how the show runners would do it. The way they have been doing things lately I thought of the dumbest way they could do it and thought the Dumpster scene from TWD lol. My initial thought was it being tied to Bran somehow. That thought has gone out the window tho. The actor who plays the NK has been tweeting about how babies and dragons reacted when he touched them and what do we think will happen since he touched Bran. With all the NDA they sign I doubt he would talk spoilers only troll. 

     

    I just hope that either he returns via warging into Bran or Arya or One of Krasters Babies being left as a Heir or anything really. Or they do some explanation. There are way to many plot holes ending it the way they did.

     

    The way I see it is the show runners had Bran go north for the sole purpose of having this battle that led to nothing. Had Bran stayed south, The NK could never kill the Raven, never mark bran and thus never be able to break the wall and go south due to the magic on the wall. 

     Bran went north to basically become the 3eyed raven tho? not for the battle to be had in winterfell. the only Kraster baby left is Sam Jr who was never given to the night king. and how can something dead Warg into someone? the directors tried to make something that is nothing in the books into something which was IMO a huge mistake and had lead to many being upset of how he died. 

     That is whats puzzling. Bran had this important role to play but if it ends the way it did he only served to allow the dead thru the wall. There has to be more than Cersie. It has to be about killing him for good as it is the only way to get rid of him forever.  Mel mentioned Azul Ahai grabbing the sword from fire called light bringer and the sword is the only way to truly kill the long night. Last season she mentioned bringing ice and fire together and mentioned the price that was promised to Dany. and all the sudden she just disappeared. 

     

    Dany had the vision of not reaching the throne and then seeing her child and Drogo. So in some way Dany should die prior to getting to the throne as seen in the vision of her in the afterlife. Jon being the prince that was promised will have to be the one to kill her to truly create light bringer. Maybe the rest of the red prists show up and inform him lol. 

     

     

    As for the warging part, Its been documented that people  have warged seconds before they die. In the books some speculate Jon warged into Ghost when he died. In the show the wildling warged into the eagle after Jon killed him. 

     

    That led me to the idea that the NK warged into another body and would eventually lead to him transferring into Bran but the actor trolling makes it unlikly. He did tough Arya and could posses her and she would become NK. That would make her a kick ass assassin of the god of death and Jon having to kill her with light bringer would fit the bitter sweat ending GRRM said it would have. 

     

     

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    I hope the NK returns. I would be upset if they show he went under the dumpster but wouldnt put it passed them lol. 

     arent the children of the forest deam as well tho? how would a NK return?

     I dont know how the show runners would do it. The way they have been doing things lately I thought of the dumbest way they could do it and thought the Dumpster scene from TWD lol. My initial thought was it being tied to Bran somehow. That thought has gone out the window tho. The actor who plays the NK has been tweeting about how babies and dragons reacted when he touched them and what do we think will happen since he touched Bran. With all the NDA they sign I doubt he would talk spoilers only troll. 

     

    I just hope that either he returns via warging into Bran or Arya or One of Krasters Babies being left as a Heir or anything really. Or they do some explanation. There are way to many plot holes ending it the way they did.

     

    The way I see it is the show runners had Bran go north for the sole purpose of having this battle that led to nothing. Had Bran stayed south, The NK could never kill the Raven, never mark bran and thus never be able to break the wall and go south due to the magic on the wall. 

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    I hope the NK returns. I would be upset if they show he went under the dumpster but wouldnt put it passed them lol. 

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